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by Ed Donath

November 25, 2011

 

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You can't spell "libertarian" without l-i-b.                                            click here to subscribe to the eddobloggo RSS feedsubscribe via RSS


Like liberals, Ron Paul beleives that America is "occupying and bullying the rest of the world." “...We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined...” - Ron Paul

"No, I did not steal this statement from Barack Obama."   -->

 

It's easy to understand how a youthful anti-war candidate on course to make "minority history" would appeal to collegians and other younger voters that comprise America's most liberal demographic.

 

But how do you explain why a septuagenarian perennial politician from a red state with an (R) after his name who regularly references what most younger folks consider to be our "ancient" Constitution and who counts himself as a friend of the old fogies' Tea Party Movement also appeals to that same traditionally liberal demographic?

 

In the case of the current occupier of the White House, his 2008 runner-up and other fellow liberals, part of their success resulted from never referring to themselves as Marxists, Maoists, socialists, left-wingers or Keynesians. Even the term "liberal" was eschewed in favor of a less-descriptive euphemism: "progressive Democrats".

 

In the case of wannabe president Ron Paul the term "libertarian" serves the same purpose as "progressive Democrats" did for Obama and Clinton. So if, in the words of a promotional slogan for an old-time movie that only libertarians of Ron Paul's generation would recall, "Love means never having to say you're sorry" then Libertarian means never having to say you're liberal.

 

Ron Paul wants to ignore the threat of a nuclear Iran?The convenient byproduct of this bilingualism, the element that appeals most to youthful Paulines (those energetic shills who pack debate auditoriums and stuff straw poll ballot boxes) is that being libertarian also means you never have to say you're sorry for not being a progressive Democrat.  Being anti-war, pro-legalization of drugs and apologetically isolationist is merely the exercise of a libertarian's Constitutional rights.

 

For that matter, as a result of the inverse of the second truth, present-day libertarians never even have to admit that they're staunch supporters of a GOP presidential hopeful.  According to an American Daily piece by JB Williams...

 

As Eric Dondero (Paul's former campaign manager from 1997 – 2003) pointed out:

"Although he [Ron Paul] is running as a Republican, he actually has very little support from rank and file Republicans, as every national Republican poll confirms. But it turns out that he has very little support from mainstream Libertarians either."...Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans...Please refrain in the future from using the label 'Libertarian Republican' [to describe] Ron Paul. Call him what he is -- some sort of populist left-winger." Dondero added: “Since 9/11 Paul has become a complete nutcase conspiratorialist quasi-anti-Semitic left-wing America-hating nutball...”
 

Campaign fundraising filings show that one of Ron Paul’s top contributors is internet giant Google with its history of leftist political activism, both in the way search engine results are manipulated to bury conservative-slanted stories and in their campaign contributions -- solidly Democrat, with the exception of one libertarian.
 

As regards Ron Paul and company...

 

You can't spell "libertarian" without l-i-b.  

 

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The Ultra-Right Wing: Liberals are just wrong.  The "compassionate conservatives" are just wrong.  The moderate conservatives are just wrong. 

 

The middle-of-the-roaders are just wrong.  The "libertarians" are just wrong.


Liberals: The far right wingers are just wrong.  The Republicans are just wrong.  The wanna-be, Cadillac liberals are just wrong.  The Tea Party people are just wrong.


Libertarians:  You are both wrong. 


Independents:  You are all wrong.


That's what's wrong with this country. 


iconoclast

Arizona Republic

[i·con·o·clast (n.) A person who attacks cherished beliefs or institutions.

Based on that definition you win the award for having the most "They're just wrongs" going for you. Congratulations. -ED]


Okay, I'll buy that. Ron Paul wants to gain the votes of the disaffected from either leading party. Does the package of positions that he offers do that effectively?

 

DonnemoiChocolat

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser

[Is the number of disaffected people who voted for Obama who now refuse to make the same mistake twice increasing? -ED]


...I thought we southpaws had finally run you out of Wisconsin, but alas, I is wrong. Glad you are again blessing the pages of the Herald with your words of wisdom. One nice thing about "writings from Lombago" - no surprises !

Ed is in the watchtower - making sure all is RIGHT
Keeps his eyes wide open - throughout the dark of night

Making sure that all is safe - free from the leftist blight
Ed is in the watchtower - and Ed is always RIGHT

 

notooserious (a/k/a Mostly Malarkey)

Wausau, WI Daily Herald 


If "traditionally liberal demographic" means against foreign intervention and war except where there is a clear US national interest, then "traditionally" extends only back to about WWII. Before that, such reluctance was a recognized conservative position, dating back to George Washington's farewell address (entangling foreign alliances). Many such conservatives opposed the progressive Wilson over WWI, and there was opposition to entering WWII under Roosevelt for the same reason...


...I am with Dr. Paul to the extent that I favor a broad retraction of our foreign garrisons and commitments. Unfortunately we have been on a Keynesian military spending binge since Lend-Lease so the economic results might be catastrophic. Imagine the unemployment rate if 1/4 of the military were discharged into the workforce.

 

brerrabbit

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser


Hi eddo, just a few of many facts on Ron Paul:

Ron Paul has NEVER:
voted to raise taxes
voted for an unbalanced budget
voted for federal restriction on gun ownership
voted to raise Congressional pay
taken a government paid junket
voted to increase power of the executive branch
He voted against the Patriot Act
He voted against the Iraq war
He does not participate in the lucrative Congressional pension program
He returns a portion of his Congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year...
There's much more, but surely you can see conservatism in there..is it the fact he does appeal to those who lean left that bothers you? Because it really shouldn't surprise or bother anyone that he stands for Liberty, and always has. Unless of course you'd rather be told how to run your life. And I KNOW you don't. What is it?

 

stosh

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun

[You are entitled to your opinion and you have done well defending it. Nonetheless, liberty must be defended at all costs, especially in times of war (ie. the present). So-called Constitutionalists like Ron Paul and his cling-ons should be the first to agree that the primary (perhaps the exclusive) function of the federal government is national defense. -ED]


Interesting thought : Republican in label and Libertarian at heart!  I see such a dichotomy in other areas of life too.

For example, Pelosi and Biden use the Catholic label yet have dissenting hearts; just one example would be the abortion issue. 

 

Or, we are at war and the Miranda Rights are given to terrorists. (I am not condoning brutality used on "anyone". Just that there are consequences for all actions be they good or bad. Common sense dictates.) ... Or, we teach the youth that sex is a gift for marriage yet give them condoms and the "pill" ... Or, we teach that fraud is wrong yet bail out the people that are responsible.

The list is endless...

 

tstrang

St. Cloud, MN Times


I am for legalization of drugs too. Why Not? It would take the money out of them. Remember Prohibition?...Booze is a drug too, worse than weed. In any case I am no liberal, or anything remotely close to Ron Paul. I believe in keeping our forces in Iraq and getting paid in oil for our service...I believe in life, not abortion. Death penalty for convicted murders, etc, not life... In other words death for the guilty, life for the innocent.

I can't believe Ron Paul says leave Iran to itself. What a nut job.

 

itsjustme53

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser


The headline is cute, but sort of meaningless. You can't spell "liberty" without l-i-b either, does that mean liberty is a bad thing? I was surprised that you quoted the notorious Eric Dondero in your article, he's a disgruntled x-employee who was fired by Paul...obviously not a good source. Don't understand the animosity by many hard line republicans toward Paul, he's by far more conservative than any other candidate running on the republican ticket. And at the same time, far more liberal (in the classical sense) than Obama. I'm disappointed in many republicans for blinding themselves to Paul's many great attributes while tearing him down for his intelligent, non-reactionary foreign policy and impressed with the many lefties who either support him or at least are open minded to him.

 

Lysander

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun

[Any animosity that conservatives harbor for RP derives from his overt similarity to your Dear Leader. Deny it all you you want but there's not a pragmatic bone in the man's body and he's double-jointed in too many others. We need someone who can change what's wrong with the system -- especially the radical wrongs added in the last 5 years of left-wing domination. -ED]


Ron Paul would make a good 3P candidate.
A protest vote against the inanities of the Donkeys vs. the chuckle-headeadness of the Pachyderms.

("chuckle-head" is a nice old Twainism that I find comfortingly amusing)

 

Matlock61

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser

[In a 3-party race a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. The left only cares that you don't vote for a legit GOP candidate to insure 4 more years of ineptitude, corruption and handouts. -ED]


I judge Ron Paul not on what others say about him, but from the positions he has taken in debates I watched. He adamantly insists on withdrawing all armed forces immediately from everywhere. I think that's irresponsible and could create a lot of problems not just for us, but would leave others trying to fend for themselves before they are ready and able to do so.

I also believe that we simply must have military presence in certain parts of the world. It is not my preference, but the world does not care about my preference and what I think might be "nicer"... Reality must be considered; a pollyannaish attitude just won't do with all those who are looking to harm us and our allies. I don't want the problem on my doorsteps... I want it eliminated at the core!

 

LivferMedia

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


Ed, I think you've started a new trend with the moniker "Paulines" indicating Ron Paul supporters. This new identifier method would thus give us the Newtons, Bachettes, Hunters, Mittens, Rickets, Cainines, and of course the Bummers.

Very good.

 

fuguestate

Montgomery, AL Advertiser

['Obamunists' is another moniker I've been using for quite some time. -ED]


A third party candidate is the last thing we need right now. I'm at the point I don't care who runs as long as we get Pres. Obama out of there.

 

Tdaigle

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser


The novelator conversation:

Well, eddo, we will have to agree to disagree on Ron Paul.

I've done my research and polled my extensive memory of the last five decades or so of politics (I became politically aware about the time Kennedy was assassinated and actually watched Oswald get gunned down on live television--I was in third grade)--there's only ONE HONEST MAN running in the race this time around.

And since insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results, I'm voting for Ron Paul and I'll write his name in if I have to, if only to show God I finally learned something.

A choice between liars is no choice at all. In fact, it's just more of the same old status quo.

A little bit of evil is still evil. Please tell what excuses you plan to use to persuade your Maker of the righteousness of voting for even a little bit of evil, especially when you know better. Unless you think supporting evil is no longer a sin.

What if this election is not only a choice between a herd of liars and one honest man, but also a test to see just how smart and devout we really are?

The "lesser of two evils" approach to voting hasn't done jack for this country in the last four decades. The update on that, "anybody but Obama" isn't going give us significant change either, unless we do something different, like refusing to support liars.

I'm willing to give THE HONEST MAN a shot once in my lifetime. Like I said, I've done the research. Ron Paul's foreign policy is modeled after that of another honest man--George Washington.

Now, I suppose you'll tell me Washington was wrong, too, just another doddering old fool with wooden teeth who's "unelectable."

I'm sure the Tories were wholly convinced that a bunch of rag-tag American slaves couldn't muster a Revolution either.

Ron Paul 2012
novelator

 

[Disagree we do on this one -- fortunately, hardly ever otherwise.  Job #1 is defeating Obamunism...not the proving of a political point.  Reality dictates that an electable candidate be presented for 2012. A third-party candidate insures Democrat victory and it should be considered a treasonous act if Paulines support such a campaign. -ED]


If you and the rest of the Republicans don't get off this electable vs. unelectable kick sold to you by every establishment Progressive, Republican and Democrat, all you're going to get with your Republican president is more Obama. The same sh*t, different face.

Ask George Soros. He's good at manipulating masses of people and stealing elections.

Tell me, who owned both candidates in 2008?

George Soros. Google McCain Soros if you don't believe me, look at those ties that bind. It takes five minutes. Soros wants to repeat that feat and since the mood of the country has decidedly shifted right, so has he. He has no loyalty to anyone other than himself, and if the "lesser of two evils" sales pitch couched as "anybody but Obama" doesn't work on vulnerable republican voters, he's got the tried and true electable vs. unelectable argument to fall back on. All by design.

Don't get snookered into voting for a little bit of evil again. We've all been doing that for forty some odd years now and how's it working out for us? It's not.

 

By the way, eddo, you didn't address a single point I raised in my original post.

novelator

 

[As a non-Republican -- a registered Conservative who can't even vote in the GOP primary here in NY -- I stand on my original statement that electability is a primary qualification for anyone running against the 100% Soros-backed Obama.  Furthermore, while I've written about other candidates to this point, I have not endorsed any of them.  Be certain, however, that I will never be a Ron Paul supporter...although I may have to hold my nose and vote for him if he becomes the Republican candidate (please don't lose sight of his affiliation of convenience) because ABO is obviously a better choice. If Paul goes 3rd Party, to insure that the fix is in for Obama, he will not be the lesser of two evils -- he will be THE evil.

 

As for Ron Paul's comparative honesty and integrity, the question I would ask him is:  Why, if you hate government and politics so much more than the rest of us, did you ever leave the medical field to become a life-long politician -- and ultimately a candidate for president?   -ED]

Because he thought he could do some good. He's the only candidate with a consistent track record of voting FOR the Constitution and against unconstitutional legislation.

I've never heard him say, or read anywhere, that Paul said he hates government and politics. If anything, he doesn't like the government we have now, the government we've allowed to occur by pursuing the "lesser of two evils" approach to voting for the past forty years.

Just as insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, electability is a term invented by the bourgeoisie to herd the masses, just like the "lesser of two evils." Both sales pitches, nothing more.

I don't care who you endorse, or will hold your nose to vote for. I care more that you have the freedom to continue to vote for whoever you want.

I'm not a sheep to be herded into one of two designer pens, Democrat or Republican, for slaughter. I'm still a free American. I do my own research. I still own my own mind. And just once, I'm going to vote the candidate I feel after all my research is the most honest of the bunch, the most consistent, the most truly conservative and the most Constitutional.

At least I know that if the call comes at 3:00 am, Ron Paul would call an emergency session of Congress before declaring yet another war instead of simply ordering the troops in under UN or NATO command because he can't be bothered to get out of bed.

But you do what you will. Truly. I have nothing but respect for you ordinarily. In Ron Paul's case, however, I don't feel you've done adequate research into him or the other candidates or you wouldn't spend a column dissing him.

As a free American who owns her own mind, I'm not holding my nose anymore to vote for whoever the Republican Progressive Establishment wants to put into the White House. I'm not going to contribute another vote ever again to our country's decline under the guises of electability or lesser of two evils. No more snake-oil salesmen.

The Republican Establishment and Soros burned me with McCain in 2008 because I held my nose. If it stinks, it doesn't get my vote and the way the media's trying to tell us all how to vote and who to vote for, this whole election campaign stinks like another 2008. The only candidate not bought and sold is Ron Paul.

And, again, if you don't believe me, do some freaking research. Ron Paul's the only man in Congress who doesn't participate in their Cadillac pension plan at our expense. Why? Go find out, Eddo. There's nothing like finding out for yourself, no lesson better learned.

Really, though, you do what you will. Just know that I will, too. And I will write Paul's name in if I have to, if only to show God I really have learned something between the snookering of 2008 and our last chance of 2012.

novelator
Sun River Valley, MT 
 

 

[He doesn't pass my smell test and, as you know, I'm not often fooled by hypocrites. Anyone who has been a politician for as many decades as Ron Paul needs to be watched at least as closely as the rest of the field. - ED]


Yes, watched. I agree. Dissed? Not fair. Dissed in favor of who? Newt? I remember Newt, since the 90s. Oh yes, I remember him well. He hasn't changed--he's still saying whatever he thinks the voters want to hear and he's still available to the highest bidder. Newt doesn't pass my smell test.

What about Mitt? Well, he stated recently that if elected the first thing he would do is issue an executive order granting a waiver on Obamacare to all fifty states, then work for repeal. Sounds good, doesn't it? On the surface, but Obama loves to rule by executive fiat, as recent history demonstrates. How is Romney's declared intent to rule by executive fiat, then work with Congress any different? And how hard do you think a man who couldn't muster the backbone to veto Romneycare is going to work to repeal Obamacare? Romney's idea of principle is sticking a wet finger into the political winds. He's already demonstrated that talent earlier this year, as he has most of his political career. Mitt doesn't pass my smell test, especially since this campaign season started out virtually with the Republican establishment stating it was Mitt's turn. When is it going to be America's turn to choose, huh?

So who else is left for conservatives? Bachman? I might've supported her until she demonstrated how easily she could be walked AWAY from the Constitution in voting to extend the Patriot Act. She had plenty of excuses, though. Plus, she made some very amateur mistakes early on in the campaign. I don't think America can handle more on the job training. Maybe in 2016. 

Santorum? Like him, but he ain't ready either. Maybe in future.

Johnson? Huntsman? Nice guys, but nuh-uh.

So, who's left, once the two Progressive RINOs (Mitt and Newt) are taken out of the equation?

Do some research. That's all I ask. If not for yourself, then for your country. Some real research, and don't give me this dissing column based on one quote from a disgruntled worker who was fired by Paul as well as a few myths collected around the Net. You're better than that, way better than that.

novelator
Sun River Valley, MT

 

[Ultimately, your 3rd party candidate will be responsible for Obama's re-election.  Who gets dissed then?

That's a rhetorical question...time to move along.  Thanks.  -ED]



 

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