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eddobloggo - Defending the right to rant in the USA!

by Ed Donath

September 23, 2011

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   Defending the right to rant!


An OnStar call replay you'll never hear on the radio.           click here to subscribe to the eddobloggo RSS feedsubscribe via RSS


When this rant was originally launched nearly two years ago it received an average number of views and comments from eddobloggo® readers.  Some offered glowing endorsements of OnStar.  Some took the opportunity to label me as "paranoid" or to accuse me of fomenting a political conspiracy theory.

Unlike most of the current events-topical pieces presented here, my story grew "legs", as mainstream media types would say.  Via search engines, the slice-of-life commentary continues to garner hits nearly every day from people seeking more information about the ramifications of owning a GM vehicle equipped with OnStar. 

At a consumer electronics show in Las Vegas earlier this year GM announced the release of a product that makes OnStar available as a retro-fit to non-GM vehicles. Since then, the story's legs have grown even longer.

OnStar performs all of those remarkable tricks you hear about in its call-replay radio ads with the help of a satellite like this one.  Of course, OnStar subscribers' privacy is invaded in the process.

In the last 24 hours the following known search phrases have landed users on this page:

  • "Can OnStar be tracked?"

  • "OnStar surveillance capabilities"

  • "OnStar arguments on tape"

  • "Consumer complaints about OnStar"

  • "Big Brother's eye in the sky."

  • "Can police use deactivated OnStar?"

Now, a breaking news story about the GM subsidiary (some call it Government Motors as the US/Canadian governments still own nearly 30% of GM) having the ability to track OnStar-equipped vehicles even after they are no longer "subscribed" by their owners has generated widespread privacy-related concern.  An OnStar spokesman recently told techno-trends website Wired.com . . .

"...We may use the information we collect about you and your Vehicle to improve the quality of our Service and offerings and may share the information we collect with law enforcement or other public safety officials, credit card processors and/or third parties we contract with who conduct joint marketing initiatives with OnStar...”
In light of the latest news about OnStar's capabilities and its potential for privacy abuse, please read (or re-read, as the case may be) my original rant . . .

General Motors began installing OnStar in select models in 1996 and eventually made its GPS-based safety/security system standard equipment on most models. I know this firsthand because I was there with OnStar, albeit reluctantly, in Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, GMC and Cadillac dealerships from the day GM introduced it. 

 

By now you surely know, as a result of hearing dramatic OnStar-call replay radio ads for many years, that the system can do such things as report subscribers' accidents and other emergencies to first-responders and it can unlock doors remotely if owners leave keys inside their vehicles.  Recently, in addition to some updated navigational and diagnostic services, OnStar has been bragging about a new feature -- the ability to slow an equipped vehicle to a stop if it is stolen and/or involved in a potentially dangerous police chase.

 

Regarding OnStar, I don't know about you, but I'm not happy about leaving myself open to unmanned drone attacks, let alone speeding tickets from some invisible Bear in the Air.The downside of having access to these and other equally remarkable services is that every OnStar subscriber's precise location is known from moment-to-moment as GM's Big Brother Satellite scans the globe from on high.  It reminds me of those unmanned drones that finally pinpointed Osama bin Laden.  I don't know about you, but I'd rather not leave myself open to an unmanned drone attack or even a speeding ticket from an invisible Bear in the Air. 

 

As GM continues to be partially government-owned, it wouldn't surprise me if OnStar's GPS satellites have been co-opted by the Obama czars to give them the ability to prove that my early arrival at Point B from Point A represents yet another act of defiant extremism.  What's next?  Will they slow me to a stop and have a union police officer detain me until I pony up some wealth they can redistribute to a unionized shovel-ready project?

 

While I was forced, in effect, to shill for OnStar as a seller of GM vehicles [For the record, my 16-year affiliation with GM ended in June 2010 as a result of an economy-related dealership closure. -ED], it was quite easy for me to resist becoming an OnStar subscriber myself.  I simply bought cars and trucks that could be ordered without OnStar. But in recent years OnStar became standard equipment on most of the GM fleet, making it impossible to find unequipped vehicles. The GMC truck I sold myself in 2009, therefore, came with OnStar and the one-year free trial that they also tout in those radio spots.

 

My wife and I never contacted OnStar and we were quite happy that we never heard from them (other than by mail) either.  Just the same, it always peeved me having that electronic back-talking GPS monkey on our backs.

 

On the job, it was very annoying having to spend extra behind-the-scenes time activating OnStar for new vehicle customers.  Explaining and re-explaining how it works and how to use it was even more annoying.  OnStar never reciprocated with as much as an attaboy for uncountable hours of slave labor on their behalf. Furthermore, although their representatives claim otherwise, I have never witnessed the consummation of a deal that was the direct result of OnStar being part of the vehicle. 

 

I was quite happy, therefore, to receive a letter from OnStar last week informing me that our free trial is about to expire.  Subsequently, on my day off, I received a phone call at home.  It was from an OnStar telemarketer who certainly would have attempted to convince us to become paid OnStar subscribers had I not intervened...

 

"Hello, Mr. Dontack?"

 

"Close enough.  Who's this?"

 

"It's Betsy from OnStar."

 

"Is this call being recorded, Betsy?"

 

"It probably is, Mr. Dontath.  Almost everything we do is monitored for quality control."

 

"Great.  I'd like to make a statement.  Are you OK with that?"

 

"Yes, Mr. Dontatack."

 

"I'm a GM car and truck salesman who has been forced to work for OnStar unpaid and un-thanked for many years.  For the last year I've been forced to have an undesired OnStar unit in my own personal vehicle. Nonetheless, today I am your most satisfied customer."

 

"And why are you so satisfied, sir?"

 

"Mainly because OnStar is finally being deactivated in my truck."

 

"Are there any other reasons?

 

"Yes. The phone number you called is listed in the Do Not Call Registry so if I ever hear from anyone at OnStar again I'll sue.  I have just one more thing to say, Betsy."

 

"What's that, Mr. Dothan?"

 

"OnStar call ended!"

 

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eddo, I am a fan of yours, but maybe just maybe, you might be a little paranoid on this. I've used onstar before and it was a great help. Now if big brother were to ever start misusing this device, I might get a little paranoid too, but I don't think we are there yet.

Tdaigle

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser
[Fans are much appreciated...but forget what I, personally, know about OnStar and re-read this statement from their spokesman: "...We may use the information we collect about you and your Vehicle to improve the quality of our Service and offerings and may share the information we collect with law enforcement or other public safety officials, credit card processors and/or third parties we contract with who conduct joint marketing initiatives with OnStar...” -ED]


I've heard the testimonials from those whose lives have been saved all due to onstar, and the advertising is targeted at humans' basic fear of safety and survival, but they don't convince me enough to want to have it installed. Exploiting peoples' fears to convince them they need the thing being advertised really gets under my skin, since I've noticed with each gadget (or law, etc.) designed to help us almost always results in a loss of a personal right. No, I don't trust the powers that be. At all. There's a quote i read a couple of decades back that comes to mind... "just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you"... I don't recall the author's name.

 

stosh

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


This makes me enjoy my old vehicles even more. With the new model year beind introduced, my newest is now 12 years old, and I have NO desire to "upgrade", especially to my former favorite GM.

 

rainbowed
Great Falls, MT Tribune


things like this remind me of a trip in the old ussr in 1973. some of the hotel rooms had tv's .... lots of tractor factory tours.. what i noticed was the 2 or three station radio, never turned off, no click, just the volume to zero. basically a box with a speaker

makes ya wonder

 

SivatagiRider

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


I am laughing as I remember the first 'rant' you wrote about OnStar because it was personal and a true story! Not only is OnStar intrusive, but it helps promote laziness on the part of the user(s). I rode with a guy years ago that had OnStar and it dawned on me that he was too lazy to check the phone book for the number and address of a business less than two miles from his home as he contacted an operator. Absolutely amazing what technology is turning us into these days...

 

boned

The Wild, Wild West


Still, you had to love murderer(s) who were tracked by OnStar in the stolen Cadillac and picked up in TX a couple years ago. One just hopes they do not have conjugal visits that would enable them to stay in the gene pool.  There is no meaningful deterrent to Big Brother misusing this device.

 

brerrabbit

Daily Advertiser


I will never buy a vehicle with a product like OnStar, one day when our all knowing and benevolent Government forces every new vehicle to have it, I will disable it. The cell phone I carry for work has a GPS built in, I have it "disabled" but I often wonder if it really is. I've never understood why people connect cameras, pointed at themselves, to their computers. There was a school somewhere back east that handed out laptops then spied on the kids at home...I don't think it's paranoia at all. I'm just skeptical that these things actually "help" and I don't think an open channel to somewhere does that.

 

Patsfan54

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


The moral to the story: Never have a computer CHIP put into a human being. No one ever wants their "free will" jeopardized or compromised.

 

tstrang

St. Cloud, MN Times


Good one Ed .Did you ever get the feeling like they never really turn them off.? They just don't respond.

 

catmandu

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun

[I didn't mention a recent promo wherein all you had to do was push the OnStar button -- whether you currently subscribe, or not -- to enter some sort of giveaway contest. It was "no purchase necessary" but you can bet the agent on the other end was ready to pitch the package. -ED]


It's not paranoia, if it's true. ROCK STARS don't believe. 

 

LET'S ROLL, I know you are right!

 

mgb12345

Montgomery, AL Advertiser


Well, who didn't think once GM became Government Motors that they wouldn't misuse the Onstar?

After the recent uproar over Apple collecting info on customers without their knowledge through their iPhones or iPods or whatever, and after Google's little debacle over their Street View collecting info on every private wireless network they ran into and used, you have to wonder how smart it is to own a "Smart" phone, or similar such device, since they all seemed designed to track your every move, whether they're on or off, whether you consent or not.

And now we know it ain't paranoia. Common sense and a bit of life experience tells you if a device can be misused by someone, it probably will--it's human nature.

I think all these intrusions into our privacy should be opt in versus opt out or no choice at all. Of course, tyrants and dictator wannabe's never see it that way, do they?

novelator
Sun River, MT


I'm sure many people like and think they need this stuff and are happy to fritter away money needlessly. I so agree we are monitored more than likely in several different ways. I have no interest in inviting more and paying for that privilege. We haven't bought more than 3 new cars. I made sure none of them had OnStar activated. Our cell phones work fine and also are track-able to be sure. Fortunately, I am not one to get into automobile mishaps with any frequency. I hope that remains the case. My wife and I have made a point of eliminating as many unnecessary extras for now and certainly have no interest in services that really are duplicate in nature. Interesting discussion though.

 

BJ Wetzel

Lafayette, LA Daily Advertiser



 

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