I think the Bush credit card has no credit limit. For example, all these Tea Partiers have basically no credit when they start in on their quit spending speeches (which I agree with) as a quote from a recent blog Rocco posted (not his quote) exemplified. "Where were you (Tea Party) when George W. Bush was spending faster than Lyndon Johnson?" That is a great question, which to me shows that these Tea Partiers are just pawns of the Republican Party.
Explain that one to me and we can move on to other issues.
jobtodo
Great Falls, MT
Tribune
[Easily explained. Most Tea Partiers have never been involved in politics. Many were apolitical until they witnessed the ramped-up spending and debt growth of the early Obama days and then they became even more upset when they realized that the spending was to little or no avail as they watched the economy and their security go south.
With education and upon closer scrutiny they learned of the wastefulness and excesses of the previous administrations and, when they confronted their representatives directly at town hall meetings they realized that those politicians were never really looking out for their constituents and that almost all of them need to be ousted before the mistakes of the recent and bygone past can be corrected.
It would be foolish to believe that Tea Partiers would elect or re-elect more than a handful of Democrats if given just two party choices. By the same token, it is foolish to believe that Republicans are favored or even listened to by the TP movement.
I think it will ultimately be more correct to say that the GOP is a pawn of the TP movement than vice versa. -ED]
Apolitical??? Why?? What distracted them from what was going on for the last ten years? I hope they don't have short attention spans? Or that their attention can be diverted easily to wedge issues. That's what Rove is good at...they should be wary of his ilk. I mean come on!! Apolitical up until 1 year ago!!!???
poj
NY
[And where were you before there was a TP movement to bash? -ED]
I rather like Karl Rove but in this case I agree with you, Ed. The Tea Party movement is doing just fine without the interference of the political pros.
WWWIII
Lansing, MI
State Journal
I was listening to Chris Matthews yesterday and much of his show was fear of the tea party folks. This was after the Austin incident. He somehow equated Stack to their organization. Kind of funny since the only positive statement in his suicide note was about communism. Not sure why Chris and the left have this fear of 65 yr old men/women demonstrating and working in our political system. I'm sorry but they just don't bring the fear of death to me.
This might be another reason folks don't watch programs with a left wing slant...who wants to listen to a grown man sounding like a scared little girl? Especially day after day. Anyway to those on the left the tea party folks have become the new boogieman. But the left has to have someone to hate since their programs are going nowhere with the American public and no one cares about running against George W anymore.
Antonious
Austin, TX
American-Statesman
They've already pinned the Austin suicide flyer on the Tea Party. Just shows that when Republicans and Democrats fear something they attack it. They tried to infiltrate the Tea Party but underestimated the level of anger at the establishment. The big 2 parties can only go so far from their base. Just proves that they really don't want to change the status quo.
Moralmoxie
Palm Springs, CA
Desert Sun
Before he was from Texas, Karl Rove was from Chicago. He wants to be on the winning team.
The Tea Party Movement is a collection of individual voters with like opinions and desires and will have little recognizable organization. They will elect the next Congress and operators like Rove won't be included.
GreyCaravel
Montgomery, AL
Advertiser
Tea Partiers, that's funny. Someone more radical right wing than the normal radical right wingers.
jwcol
Mansfield, OH
News Journal
[Only because Obama is a more radical lefty than the normal radical lefties. -ED]
Rove isn't the only one warning Tea Partiers to be wary of Republican efforts to turn the movement into astro turf.
In a recent article ("Stimulus Hypocrisy and the Tea Partiers"), the very conservative Cato Institute warns Tea Partiers to steer clear of the GOP.
KRidge
Des Moines, IA
Register
Eddo,you will have to admit, the "teabaggers" and Sarah have one thing in common. They both make easy targets !!
nocturne
Montgomery, AL
Advertiser
[I do agree with you this time around nockworst. The BIGGEST things always make the easiest targets. Now agree with me that whatever the truth is about the TP movement, both major parties fear it. Of course, the GOP would rather co-opt it than look bad fighting it, but the lefty haters just want to target it for all it's worth because there are so few targets left anymore that aren't connected to Obama. -ED]
I suspect those that condemn conservatives the right to speak out must be employed in the government and forget who is actually paying for their extravagant lifestyle. They think from their wallets rather than their heads.
JohnCDavidson
Mansfield, OH
News Journal
Tea partiers are truly
dangerous to the democrat machine. Grassroots,
spontaneous, determined to make their government
live up to it's constitutional creed. More
frightening than a raging yeast infection at a
hooker convention.
Proof that the dems are controlled by the left
wing of their party and ultimately by Obie and
his handlers, not by their constituents. Taking
the power back will bring out the worst in them.
To be expected.
BilBala2
Lansing, MI
State Journal
I thought Tea Partiers
were Republicans. Sarah Palin, for instance,
spoke at the Tea Party convention in Nashville.
I don't know of any Democrats who did.
Could you name a few Congressional Republicans,
Republican Governors, or Florida Republicans
standing for reelection this year whose
Democratic opponents would be preferred by Tea
Partiers?
Could you name some of the several Obamaczars
who are outspoken Truthers?
GVandergrift
Tallahassee, FL
[There are
not likely to be any Democrats --
especially incumbents -- who will be found
suitable by Tea Partiers. Obviously, that
is why the GOP wants to co-opt the movement and
the left wants to attack it in attempt to weaken
it and/or its influence. Van Jones, the
foul-mouthed Marxist Green Whatever czar who was
forced to resign his post, was an early and
outspoken truther at his public speaking
engagements. -ED]
There were no tea
partiers prior to this administration and the
only reason I can think of is because people
were noticing how Bush was spending here
spending there, spend, spend, spend, but they
knew he was on the way out and they (Tea Party
types) hadn't reached the breaking point YET.
Along came Obama (as I have previously stated I
voted for him) he PROMISED CHANGE and that got
him elected...yet NONE CAME...and he was
spending more and more. It seemed like he was
trying to set a new record on spending. THERE
WAS THE BREAKING POINT (I know it was for me) I
know you CAN'T HAVE THAT MUCH SPENDING and not
have a tax increase somewhere down the line. I
saw how congress was a bunch of IDIOT'S RUNNING
AMOK. I saw chaos reign in our government and I
as did many others (some from the republican
party, some from the democratic party, some from
the libertarian party) I took up the rally cry
that something had to be done. The next thing I
noticed there was the tea party. I have attended
two rallies and I can tell you that the two I
went to, IF a republican isn't going to listen
to the people, he is out. If a Democrat doesn't
listen he will be out as well. We or should I
say the tea party doesn't care one whit about
what party you are from we just want good
government and to end the bickering and fighting
within our government. We want less government,
less taxes (perhaps it is time for a flat tax)
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT PARTIES we just want our
country back and our constitution. I value your
opinion (probably more so than others) I can't
guarantee that the tea party isn't a flash in
the pan, I cant guarantee that they aren't going
to be gobbled up by the republicans but I can
guarantee that they won't become democrat as the
democrats (left) continues to believe them a
threat and continues to malign them. We tea
party members are JUST AVERAGE AMERICANS. MOST
OF US AREN'T PROFESSIONAL politicians, though
some pro's are starting to join ranks with us as
tea partiers.
rocco0607
Great Falls, MT
Tribune
The last thing the tea
party needs is rinos like Rove getting involved.
I wish this man would disappear. Rinos are
nothing more than progressives in disguise.
taldock
[Funny thing
is that lefties think Rove is a flaming neocon.
-ED]
Dick Armey isn't a
political pro? I don't doubt there's a lot of
genuineness in the movement, but that whole
Palin-Memphis gig showed there's a lot of old
GOP BS tangled in, too.
One of my favorite Michigan teabag stories is
one of the national charters wanting to picket
this year's Detroit Auto Show for GM's bailout.
The local Michigan charter refused to
participate because they claimed they didn't
want to harm a struggling Michigan company that
employs so many local residents. That was
probably partially true, but that interview
failed to mention that the one of the founders
and sitting president of the group is a GM
pension fund recipient. She may be a hypocrite,
but she's a smart hypocrite.
JayE3
Lansing, MI
State Journal
[The
difference is that (like my self) those who
might embrace it see TP as a movement while most
lefties and unaffecteds like yourself can only
see the PARTY stuff that is bringing out the
Armeys and the Palins to help organize it. I
find it curious that hundreds ponied up to be in
Nashville for the "historic convention" while
the better part of a million protesters showed
up at the last march in DC. The strength of the
movement is the influence it will have over
future elections. Republicans believe they have
an "in" so they're making nice. Democrats know
they're toast so they're trying to attack and
smear the movement out of business. The lefties,
however, can't grasp that for the most part
there ain't no BUSINESS to put them out of! -ED]
According to Doug Schoen
(formerly a pollster for Bill Clinton) "the Tea
Party Movement is a reaffirmation of a trend
that has been happening in American politics
since 1964".
Unless Obama commits to serious deficit
reduction, spending cuts and smaller government,
the Democrats could easily lose both the Senate
and the House this November because of the Tea
Party Movement. The chance that Obama will
change course and tack to the center is nil.
Finally, Obama's appointment of a Deficit
Reduction Commission is a smoke screen to give
him a reason to raise taxes and blame it on
someone else.
zagreb
Palm Springs, CA
Desert Sun
I heard a great line for
a new party now that the tea party has been
hijacked by the neocons.
The coffee party - Wake up people!
endthefed
St. Cloud, MN
Times
[Rimshot!
-ED]
What are tea baggers a
target of? Surely less government can't be all
bad. Less spending by the government is
certainly something that is sorely needed. They
are definitely not right wing lunatics but
ordinary citizens who feel they are not
represented by either party. Hell, I feel that
way, tea bagger or not.
Eddo, you're right. If both parties don't pay
heed to what's going on, more than a few of the
incumbents will be sent packing.
fuguestate
Montgomery, AL
Advertiser
"The Blame
Bush Credit Card is maxed out"....Tooo Funny
EDDO!
Obama- Pelosi are going to destroy our country
if they are not stopped soon. Maybe Iraq can pay
us back. We liberated them. Now we need their
help to liberate us! :-)
GO Tea Party!
Zippit
St. Cloud, MN
Times
...It's a well-written
piece with a point of view -- though for once I
find myself in agreement with Karl Rove:
"George W. Bush's senior advisor goes on to say
that tea partiers should disassociate themselves
from "cranks and conspiracy nuts" on the fringe
in order to maximize its influence."
Sound advice, in my opinion (assuming you're
concerned about our country taking a
protofascist lurch to the right on the road to
paranoidal totalitarianism). I, for one,
am happy to kneecap the nuts, bigots, and
conspiracy theorists.
StandintheDoor
St. Cloud, MN
Times
[Three days ago they were
cranks and conspiracy nuts. Yesterday they were
Tim McVeigh kamikaze pilots. Today they're
protofascists and neo-holocausters. Get my
drift? -ED]
I only know one Tea
Partier. An independent small businessman who,
like everybody else is trying to eek out a
living. He regularly takes financial risks to
keep his employees working. His reward, a
government throwing stumbling blocks in front of
him at every turn. It's to the point it doesn't
pay to stay in business. However, he feels
obligated to keep his employees working even
when it would be financially prudent to do
otherwise.
Face it, a large percentage of Americans are
sick and tired of our "nanny" federal government
overstepping it's constitutional bounds. It
didn't start with Bush2 either, it started 100
years ago. We are reaping the reward for a
mindset of rights without responsibilities, and
the idea that we need a "keeper" to survive.
People are sick of it and are finally starting
to speak up. Go get 'em Tea Partiers, I'm sick
of it too.
jetflyr
Wausau, WI
Daily Herald
The liberal, progressive,
left are running scared. They have done nothing
but blame blame blame, they are running out of
people, places, causes to blame. Of course
Americans exercising their 1st Amendment rights
will be victimized (as we already are).
Which is precisely why Obama and Co. started S.
773 and S. 778 so that they can fake some kind
of mass terror and exercise martial law and shut
everyone up, shut down our comm. computers and
infiltrate law abiding Americans. Which of
course would slow down any concerted efforts to
get the word out about the heinous acts and
constant assaults on our liberties this admin
continues to do on a daily basis.
Who does Obama and Co. fear the most? That's
right. OPPOSITION!
He thought the H1N1 would be his prize but he
just couldn't get it off the ground. so, yes
they are attacking ANY AND ALL AMERICANS THAT
ARE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
Why???? Because they are a bunch of scared
weenies.
Obama isn't leading anything, good grief that
man is not in charge of anything, not even at
home. You know Michelle wears the pants in that
family.
~caveat~ don't get me started....
Liberty4USA
Montgomery, AL
Advertiser
Maybe the condemners get
their head mixed up with their wallets because
they are in the same vicinity??? I believe
we have reached political critical mass where
there are more voters that have a vested
interest in government than not!
fishfer
Mansfield, OH
News Journal
[The
government can't create wealth. At best, it can
only redistribute it. At worst, it will keep it
for itself and for its own totalitarian control.
That's exactly why the Tea Party movement was
created
-- to roll back the anti-American,
anti-Constitutional nanny state-ism that you
progressive lefties embrace. -ED]
What I like about the
so-called Tea Partiers is that they will become
the conflagration that will eventually consume
the Republican Party, and the Democrats, who
will appear moderate by comparison, will end up
winning again. Go Tea Partiers! BTW, Repubs were
running against the ghost of Jimmy Carter for 12
years after he left office, so stop being
hypocrites!
Raindog64
Greenville, SC
News
[What you
like about Tea Partiers is that you can
inaccurately blame them for being Republicans
(who haven't done a thing to deserve blame since
your Dear Leader began his Bolshevic plotting)
to avoid having to blame this administration for
what it is and what it has done to the USA. Step
aside so you don't get hit by the steamroller --
the one that flattened the shoo-in Democrat in
Mass. and the incumbent in NJ. -ED]
I for one
accept that the tea party is pretty much what it
says it is....revolting.
Anonymous
[Get used to
more of the same. -ED]
What's next? Are tea
bagger dissenters going to attack President
Obama's request that former Presidents George W
Bush and Bill Clinton work together on Haitian
earthquake relief aid? Senators Lindsey Graham
and John Kerry working together on a
comprehensive Climate Change Bill with
cap&trade? John McCain, Mike Castle, working
together with Tom Carper and Jeff Bingamen on a
healthcare reform bill? Hmm.. do tea baggers
even know what they believe in anymore?
JollyStingRay
Wilmington, DE
News Journal
[Do you even
know what you are attacking anymore...or do you
just follow what the lefty media are demonizing
to try and save Obama because he's too big to
fail? "I'm going to test their
problem-solving skills." - Obama "I'm going to
keep protesting his problem-creating skills." -
eddobloggo]